AlexH 0 Posted January 24, 2010 I tried a little experiment to see if there was a difference between a peat based (80% Peat) Seeding compost (I used "Vigor Plant" Semine e Trapiante) and a coir (coconut based) dehydrated pellet compost. I planted seeds of 5 different varieties (C.Annuum: Anaheim, Demon Red, Hungarian Hot Wax, Jalapeno; C.Fructescens: Tabasco) one pot in coir and two in peat based. All have had the same temperature, light, and humidity conditions. 25 days later I can share with you the first results... There was no fundamental difference in germination time (and I cannot comment on germination rates as the scale of the experiment is too small). However I have noticed a significant difference across all 5 varieties in terms of seedling development (hopefully you will see from these photos). So, even though the experiment is not completely "scientific" I think I can conclude that the peat based compost is better than coir in the early stages of seedling development... I will now try to observe developments in the next growth stages! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pioc 36 Posted January 24, 2010 Very interesting test AlexH! Do you can specify if the coconut coir is addicted in any macro and micro elements? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexH 0 Posted January 24, 2010 Do you can specify if the coconut coir is addicted in any macro and micro elements? No, nothing has been added, it was just rehydrated in 100ml tap water (as per the instructions). The "dry" product is more or less what you see in the site below... http://www.alibaba.com/product/wayambacoco...Coir_Pith_.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexH 0 Posted January 30, 2010 Almost one week later... The difference in the growth rates between the two groups of plants is getting even more exaggerated! Also, I notice that the plants in Coir have leaves that are somewhat more yellow than those in the peat. Could this be because they lack Iron? (or some other critical element for chlorophyl production...?) I'll post some more pictures when I have a chance...! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tribo75 18 Posted January 30, 2010 I read somewhere, but i don't remembere where, that for the first time it's better use only water without nutrients, it works as roots growth stimulation. If anyone is interested in coco can take a look to this video made by Canna ( coco and solutions producer) : part 1 part 2 part 3 Ho letto da qualche parte, ma non ricordo dove, che all'inizio ( sopratutto nell'uso del cocco o della lana di roccia) è meglio usare solo acqua senza nutrienti perchè in questo modo la pianta sviluppa meglio le radici. infatti non trovando nutrimento queste si spingono in profondità per cercarlo, mentre se lo trovassero subito non avrebbero bisogno di espandersi. Chi fosse interessato al processo di produzione e all'uso delle fibre di cocco può dare uno sguardo al video prodotto da Canna, un noto produttore di accessori per l acoltivazione e nutrienti in forma liquida: parte 1 parte 2 parte 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pioc 36 Posted January 30, 2010 ... Also, I notice that the plants in Coir have leaves that are somewhat more yellow than those in the peat. Could this be because they lack Iron? (or some other critical element for chlorophyl production...?) .. Coir does not contain fundamental nutrients (as peat has) so I suppose, in this case, yellow is due to a Nitrogenium's absence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexH 0 Posted January 30, 2010 This is interesting... I will be interested to see if the extra root growth means that the plants will catch up with the others when they are planted out! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexH 0 Posted February 7, 2010 Here is an update, two weeks later: The difference is very noticable in all of the seedlings, except the Demon Red, which has much smaller leaves and seems to be slower growing. The most noticable difference is in the Jalapeno and Anaheim. As well as the difference in development there is also definitely a difference in the colour of the leaves, with the seedlings grown in Coir having yellower leaves than those in peat. Here are some update photos... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmpman1974 503 Posted February 12, 2010 Coir is HORRIBLE for pepper plants. I tried last year. Don't bother! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexH 0 Posted February 12, 2010 ...so I am seeing! ...fortunately I only have 5 pots in Coir, and it was mostly to see what the differences were... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexH 0 Posted February 27, 2010 So I come to the end of the experiment! ...it is clear that Coir is a very poor medium for growing chilli seedlings, the plants practically stopped growing, so I thought the best thing to do would be to transplant them into a peat based compost and see if they can catch up. It was also interesting to be able to see the root development, interestingly the root development was also very poor compared with the peat based compost plants, this was a suprise as I thought that the lack of nutrition in the Coir would have led to the formation of a more extensive root system... Here are the final photos... The plants before transplanting (see how small and yellow they are compared with the others!): The "underdeveloped" roots: In their "new homes": Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pioc 36 Posted February 28, 2010 Thanks to AlexH for have shared this experience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barcello 4 Posted February 28, 2010 great tinghs i see... nice job! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlexH 0 Posted March 7, 2010 Thanks Pio & Barcello ...I'm glad you found it interesting! After one week in the new soil and with one application of a gentle fertilizer (Borlanda) the plants have returned to a normal green colour and are beginning to grow a bit better, one even has some buds forming! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites